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As disgusting as it may seem, the fact is that more often than not combatants use civilians as human shields or bargaining chips. The recent bombardment of a U.N. position by Israel because nearby there were Hizbullah operatives proves that non-combatants and civilians should put as much distance as possible between them and any fighting faction, or risk being used as shields by one ruthless militia, or bombed by yet another ruthless army.

Allowing to have military personnel or militias near your own position rapidly and deeply decreases your odds in favour of your survival. In other words: opportunism or proximity to sensitive installations may turn you into a target even if you have identified yourself as non-combatant.

In the case of the Lebanon war, edition 2006, these attitudes are really easy to explain: a terrorist group like Hizbullah will indeed make use of such tactics because that is its nature. The Israelis, on the other hand, are utterly commited to destroying the Lebanese terrorists while showing any supporter of them that in the end, they will always have the upper hand, and are trying to make it clear that they will respect the rules of war as long as their adversaries do. If they don't, then they don't either, plus they have more firepower; in this sense, killing civilians and neutrals is a political message of sorts.

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The further - rather indiscriminate - bombardments made by the IDF over Lebanese towns with the consequent toll in civilian deaths only streses the point: civilians should get away by any means available, even on foot. If it's not your war, if you stay, it will soon be.

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And another thing to look upon is the fact that while the Israeli government has provided its citizens with numerous bomb shelters, in Lebanon, neither the government nor Hizbullah have done the same. Militia members seem to have more than adequate installations such as bunkers and trenches to protect themselves; however, despite that they say they care for the population, it seems that they have not constructed a single bomb shelter for civilians in an area in which they are a virtual state within the Lebanese state.

Considering the fact that they seem to be capable fighters and tacticians, it is very difficult to presume that they just forgot to build civilian shelters for an attack that they have thought about, evidently. Instead, my view is that they made the decision to defend the milita and leave civilians that trusted them totally on their own.

And this, for three reasons:

- They really don't care about life.

- They opreferred to spend their budget in weaponry and preparing for apocalyptic opportunities to go to Heaven as martyrs, rather than avoiding bitter moments for civilians.

- Hizbullah profits from the deaths of civilians, politically speaking.

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Nevertheless and morals aside, using humans as shields seems to be a valid survival tactic.


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It seems so if you take aside every conceivable moral value; but while this might seem effective as a survival tactic one has to consider also the future implications: sooner or later you could be held accountable. One thing is to become a cannibal and eat the corpses of the deceased in an accident whenever the need arises validly, and quite another is to murder people just to eat them because you want to survive, since the victims have the same rights as you.

If you are a combatant, you got into the business of fighting by your own will or decision; cases in which individuals just have to fight for their lives are relatively rare at war. So, you don't have any right to draw others into your own trench, and more so in the case of civilians that you are allegedly trying to defend.

I think that the high number of civilian casualties among Lebanese civilians could be explained on the basis of:

- The lack of emergency : they didn't have enough hospitals capable of autonomous functionality, no real bomb shelters and so on. Hezbollah built for itself a lot of bunkers, but nothing for the people.

- The fact that some of those civilians could have been Hezbollah members operating without uniforms - not in the case of children, of course.

- And the fact that the Israelis reacted to this human shielding business by shooting anyway, to make a statement: "We will shoot you no matter what kind of shield you plan to use".

The problem with all this is that in the Middle East hostage-taking and other questionable tactics have become so common that talking about any sort of legitimacy in any fight seems preposterous.

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